Former 2024 Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy spoke to Tucker Carlson about the “mega reorganization” of federal bureaucracy in an interview released Friday.
President-elect Donald Trump swept all seven battleground states, won the popular vote and achieved a Republican majority in the Senate. Ramaswamy detailed how the incoming administration could eliminate and separate federal agencies from Washington, D.C. to make systemic change.
“I think many of those agencies should not exist. Many of them that do continue to exist absolutely should be moved to other parts of the country,” he told Carlson.
Ramaswamy said the Office of the Surgeon General and the U.S. Department of Agriculture should not be in D.C.
He also named the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services among those in need of major reforms.
“I think you’re wrongfully insulated in Washington, D.C.,” Ramaswamy said before mentioning that the U.S. Department of Education should be eliminated entirely.
“I wouldn’t want to start this process of just saying, okay, let’s move them out of Washington, D.C., as some sort of polite, genteel way of avoiding and sidestepping the thing that we actually need to do, which is bring a jackhammer and a chainsaw to the whole thing,” he added.
“But even those that do continue to exist, you would actually have a lot more accountability to the people and probably even some kind of stimulus, if you will, in parts of the country that wouldn’t mind a little bit of that growth getting out of D.C. and come into their own backyard,” Ramaswamy said.
Ramaswamy said many federal employees would quit on their own if they were required to go into the office to work every day. He suggested Trump fire approximately 75% of federal employees immediately to prevent his administration from easing into bureaucracy on day one.
“Department of Education is a good example,” Ramaswamy told Carlson. “Shut it down. Send the money back. Workforce training can move to the Department of Labor and loan collections can move to Treasury.”
“It’s just a mass opportunity for a mega reorganization and thereby downsizing of this bureaucracy. And it’s a one-way ratchet because it’s not like if another president comes back, they can write that back into existence by fiat. They’d actually have to go through Congress to do it,” he said.
Ramaswamy revealed he would like to be involved in reshaping the federal government in Trump’s incoming administration.
“Would you be involved in this effort?” Carlson asked.
“I’d like to be, yeah, absolutely. I’ve given it a lot of thought. It was the centerpiece of my presidential campaign. I spent a year and a half of my life. It was probably the most. I mean, I took a lot of positions on a lot of things, but this is probably the single most useful and certainly personally important to me, part of the policy aspect of my campaign last year,” Ramaswamy responded. “And yes, I have been involved, let’s just say, in recent months. So, this is laying out what the blueprint should look like.”
Watch the full interview:
Vivek Ramaswamy on how good just triumphed over evil.
(0:00) Donald Trump’s Overwhelming Victory
(7:38) Why Did Vivek Go All-In for Trump?
(20:00) What Are the Effects of Trump’s Win?
(27:04) Trump’s Government Efficiency Plan
(45:33) The Oncoming Collapse of Corporate Media… pic.twitter.com/0P3Eyk2uku— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) November 8, 2024
